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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:35pm | IP Logged Quote Averex

Ok just wondering why no one rates these days. Rating is what makes the charts right yet so few people vote and its cosntantly the same songs on the charts, its really really dull and boring and people need to rate more. If you like it the song then why not rate it rather than having the same songs everday of every week on each genre how boring. And plus there alot of great songs on here that are not making it on the charts because no one bothers to rate. This sux lets change it now!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:38pm | IP Logged Quote Tacx

 - I think thats what the majority of people do

With all due respect the system is still very new and fresh, so give others a chance

Oh and i havent noticed the same music in the charts at all - go listen to either the user/official its a mass variety

maybe you put many different genres under the label



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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 6:58pm | IP Logged Quote Averex

dont agree at all then how come in user charts can people get to number 1 with 10 votes thats totally outrageous and really makes the charts seem so pathetic and meaningless.
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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:05pm | IP Logged Quote Ffabbia

You are actually incorrect.

Whilst it's possible that a track might have conceivably got to number one with ten votes during the initial couple of weeks (when the current chart system was being implemented and tested) it now takes 30+ ratings for a track to make the number one slot in the user charts. As a case to point the current Number One from MD-1 has 36 ratings against it. The track in the number 20 position has 11.

The official charts are based upon user nominations, and the system is completely fair. MD-1 has received more nominations, and more ratings than anyone else....reflecting in both charts. The reasons why are obvious. But agree, or disagree you can't criticise the users of the site for their voting habits, it's up to them! How else would you run a chart?????

As for the charts being 'pathetic and meaningless', they are essentially meaningless. Of course they are!! What do you want exactly? What do you want us to do in order to make things to your liking?

The user voted charts of a website dedicated to showcasing unsigned musicans are about as relevant and valid in the real world, (in relation to the corporate music business and the record buying public) as a fish to a bicycle! Artists get nothing whatsoever for making the number one slot, no money, no fame, no contract...nothing! A pat on the back on the message boards is about the extent of it.

I've never understood how people can take the whole chart thing so seriously, it's hardly life and death, or even particularly important in the general run of things is it?

Ok, so people should rate more. Fine, we all would agree with that on principle. I don't get a lot of ratings either. But I realise that this is mostly my own fault, for various reasons too diverse to go into here...but mostly because this sort of thing is reciprocal In other words if I was as prolific on the boards; and in commenting and rating others as MD-1, I might also be enjoying a lot of reciprocal rating in return.

I would suggest that rather than being so confrontational on the rant forum, you should get out there and start doing the legwork, commenting and voting for your fellow artists. Then, and only then will you start to get back what you put in.

To go onto the boards, with only six posts to your name and start bemoaning the fact that you are not in the charts is not the best way to commence.



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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:21pm | IP Logged Quote Mancini

i am keepin' out of this one other wise there will be world war 3

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:30pm | IP Logged Quote Mancini

but i will add what p*sses me off lol people who dont comment or only on there friends page or give excuse like ive not been comment much as i dont really have much to say? then in the next breath you read comments on someone elses page by these people. thats a pain in the ass and a crime if you ask me.i can leave 3 or 4 comments on an artists page and never get one back. thats sommat 2 have a rant over? not ranting over  user or offical chart place when you aint even been about doing the comments and rating yourself. yes i rate alot infact i rate nearly everything i play. i dont do this 2 get votes back that is just stupid as i would have 100's of votes.and i was doing this before the new system changed over so i havn't changed just accomadate the new features.

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:56pm | IP Logged Quote Mancini

and i so wish people would stop thinking that leaving loads of comments and rates gets em you back? ask tim ep or electric salmon ditheramb fragmented vision mnfe d-lux dawn sinclair mark alexander the shed i could be here all day they all do alot of c's & r's. yes probably not as much as me thats there doing tho if they want to comment on people and rate thats up to them innit? but i dont think they will notice much more rates and comments on there page.i see it like this look @ people like dj redshirt & virus why do they always gets number ones and loads of rates? because they make bloody good music and thats what people leave rates for. if people think its all hand holding that gets you noticed then there wrong? i dont always gets rates from people who leave comments even when they say the track is amazing or the production is flawless.i even notice my rates go up even with out comments.i see that as because im in the charts so thats why i value the charts cos it does get your page more hits and you know what more hits means dont ya more c's & r's. ffabs if you left more comments maybe you would get more comments back your not garranteed to get rates tho no one is and as to the offical charts leaving more comments aint gonna get you more nominations is it? cos only vips can nominate? and to be fair more freeloaders upload  new tracks compared to the vip's?

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 10:06pm | IP Logged Quote D-Lux

great point tho, the ammount of times i've seen my posts in the New MP3s section just dissapear without more than 1, maybe 2, comments is astounding

i'm all over the place, look at my post count for god's sake, or, even better, look at Ffabbia's - absolute madness!

the bottom line is, a mixture good music, luck and previous track record gets you chart positions

that's how it works in the real world as well, life's a b*tch, get over it



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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 10:22pm | IP Logged Quote Tacx

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